A few weeks back I tweeted some of my feelings about the phenomenon that is Babymetal. I figured I would take this month’s column to discuss the band in more than 140 characters and to shed light on the connection between their approach and specific aspects of Japanese culture. It may be a very westernized take on the very Japanese export or it could be my college studies (Gender & Women’s Studies with minor focus on Queer Theories) forcing my brain to read between the lines. What I do know, from scouring the internet and from private messages I received, I am not even close to alone in my thinking. In fact, my opinion might constitute the majority, despite many fellow concerned citizens reluctance to speak up.
Now. My main beef with Babymetal stems not from the band themselves but from the amount of coverage they are receiving in what could be deemed “metal press.” As I have been saying repeatedly, 2016 has been an incredible year for metal, particularly death metal and experimental black metal. (As evidenced by my January, February, March and Q1 reviews!) Babymetal is taking up what precious space most publications give to actual metal these days and thus stealing from bands like Zealotry, Howls of Ebb, Nucleus, Chthe’ilist, Bat, Oranssi Pazuzu and other tremendous releases from 2016. (And yes: I do recognize the irony here that I’m adding to that malaise of coverage.) Most of these pieces on Babymetal tend to read like fluff pieces in OK! Magazine and only briefly touch upon the actual music. The editors just know that the mere mention of the polarizing band will result in tons of clicks, which of course means revenue for their advertising partners.
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My second beef is that I think that these girls are being sexualized. Not in a blatant, ‘let’s-dress them-in-leather-and-dip-them-in-lipstick’ way, but in a different kind of way. A Lolita way. When I see a girl, in a catholic school girl uniform, blowing kisses to the crowd, I get very, very uncomfortable. I have read that specific novel from Nabokov and, from that, I have perhaps a modicum of understanding of the mind of a pedophile. Babymetal’s cute-sweet persona, edgy music stylings and commitment to that J-Pop schtick lends itself perfectly to the sweaty imagination of the adult male obsessed with a nymphette. Don’t believe me? Let’s take a look at some lyrics.
Aside from the tracks in which they worry about their weight and demand chocolate, Babymetal is wont to sing about “Daddy.” Some people take the stance that these songs are merely young girls asking their daddy to buy them a cute toy. To those people I say: you’re brainwashed. The “Daddy” complex is exactly one thing: a younger and perceivably innocent girl appealing and appeasing an older, more powerful male. Below is a brief sampling of the lyrics for “Onedari Daisakusen” translated into English.
I flatter more than usual.
I give Dad a shoulder massage, and immediately…[With angel’s face, devil’s whisper.] I will become your bride, Dad.
So, if you tell me that those lyrics are not sexual in a way that is blatantly obvious I will tell you that you’re lying to yourself. Additionally, that is some serious Electra complex shit. And don’t forget about the song “Headbangeeeeerrrrr!!!!!” which is about the night of a girl’s fifteenth birthday (her “special night”):
With the legendary black long hair disordered around and gorgeously,
blooming crazy, this flower will soon disappear fruitlessly.
But, back to the outfits: it’s a well-known and well-documented fact that the schoolgirl look in Japan is pretty fetishized. Not in every single instance, but often. It can also be a clever, albeit obvious, front for sex workers. This isn’t rocket science. Taken from the linked article: “But the dark side to all this cuteness is not hard to infer: if adult women fashion themselves after young girls, the sexualization of actual underage girls can start to seem normal.” (Full article here). Um… DUH. Denying these realities based on a difference in culture and different takes on what sexuality is or isn’t does not make them any less real. It’s even common to find young girls being paid minimum wage to massage older men. Starting to see a connection here?
Babymetal, as an export, is taking some of the darker sides to Japanese sex culture and marketing it in a flouncy, buttoned up package. New flash: women do not have to be nude to be sexualized. In fact, when we are dealing with pedophilia, it’s the temptation of youthful purity that makes it so appealing to the worst of the offenders. Thus, the fact that these girls are visually representing this facade is what makes it so appallingly disgusting to me.
Another item I would love to address is the notion that Babymetal “inspires women to find their place in metal.” Do they, though? Most of the women I know see this band as a gimmicky act, not as an empowering presence. I implore any young woman who is inspired to have a career in music (or even just enjoy it as a pastime) to instead enroll in a program like Willie Mae Rock Camp (or any of the literally dozens of similar programs like this one in Salt Lake City, or this one in Portland or find one in your area) immediately so they are surrounded by other strong, badass women. Not cartoons.
Now. I am in NO WAY saying that Babymetal should not exist — if you think they are fun and whatever then go ahead and blast their tunes. If you are a dude and you dig them, it doesn’t mean you are a pedo. It’s just impossible to deny the connection between their aesthetic and the fetishized Lolita character. Babymetal does not exist in a vacuum, and you cannot exempt them from it just because you think they are cutesy and don’t want to admit that there are other people who have frankly nefarious and nauseating thoughts about them no matter where they are from. Because I don’t want to sit around and listen to something doesn’t mean it’s inherently bad or that it has no place. I just very sincerely wish that metal publications would promote some of the terrific, hard-working metal acts out there that are making fantastic music and not merely promoting a stage show or gimmick.
– Manny-O-War
Nine Circles 
As soon as I saw gender studies I knew you would complain about the band. Useless SJWs with a useless degree. SJWs always project, little girls stay away from Manny.
Babymetal fucking sucks. End of story
Babymetal fucking Badass, and more Heavy than you! End of Story.
Wow…you are so naughty getting nervous at the girls throwing kisses. Of course there are pedophile fans of BM as there are of every group out there. And also, most pedophiles are probably not interested in these girls since they are over 16. 16 is actually the age where you can become a pedophile. But if you hear about someone trying to molest these girls or wanting to sexual them, please call the police or just turn yourself in. Idiot.
While I’m not a native Japanese speaker, trying to use a rough translation of their lyrics is a pretty weak argument toward your cause. You or I cannot truly say what the lyrics mean. I’m not gonna try to sit here in the comments and tell you their lyrics aren’t sexual because like I stated before I’m not a native speaker. But if you are gonna use this as one of your arguments I hope you realize that anytime languages are translated there are meanings that cannot be properly translated. Have you ever heard of the term lost in translation? It’s pretty common that if you go to a foreign website and use a translation service like Google translate just about every single time when you read the translated sentences that they don’t make sense 100% of the time. Last I checked, Japanese culture and Western culture are very different. To say that all the terms Americans, or any other English speaking culture, mean the exact same thing in Japan is really naïve. Because it’s “blatantly” obvious to you when you translate the lyrics to English, doesn’t not in anyway mean that translation is what it actually means. There are a lot of words in English that don’t translate to Japanese too, that’s why in some of their (and other Japanese) songs they might use an English word, and it’s not because they are trying to appeal to people who speak English, it’s because that lyric might not have the same meaning or that there is literally no translation for it. So if you can tell me that you speak Japanese, know all the intricacies of the japanese culture their humor their slang and all of their terms that they use for any sexual fantasies they may have, then I guess this post was for naught. But if you don’t speak Japanese how can you truly say what the lyrics actually mean or what they actually say? How can you confidently tell people that they are brainwashed when the lyrics and their meaning could be worlds apart from the translation? Are you really 100% certain about what their lyrics actually mean? I’ll go ahead and tell you that I don’t know 100% percent what the true meaning behind their lyrics are. I’m not even trying to tell you that the lyrics aren’t sexual in anyway. But there is a hole in your argument about how sexual those lyrics may or may not be, it’s just not really fair to point out a translated lyric and truly know what it means.
Japanese culture is high-context. They don’t mean what they say. And I think it is common in China and Japan where daughters would say ” I would like to be dad’s bride”. It’s just another expression of love. In China, there is a saying that ” daughters are lovers (of dad)in the previous life”
Also the Lines:
One for the money
Two for the money
Three for the money
Money,money,money.
So the Ghostwriter of these lyrics was lost in translation to?
I think it all deals just about the health of the Girls… So please don’t attack people who just want to give advice that there is something wrong
In case of Daddy/Papa they actually use these english Words. And by the fact that the lyrics aren’t written by themselves … Yes it’s not 100% argument but at least hint and evidance
Babymetal is for hipsters and dilettantes. A swift end to this band and anyone who defends them.
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Okay… where do i start.
>When I see a girl, in a catholic school girl uniform, blowing kisses to the crowd, I get very, very uncomfortable.
What does that have to do with BABYMETAL? BABYMETAL does not wear catholic schoolgirl uniforms and i’m pretty sure they don’t blow kisses at the crowd either.
>Aside from the tracks in which they worry about their weight and demand chocolate, Babymetal is wont to sing about “Daddy.”
It’s misleading to say that they are “wont to” as they only do it in one song.
>Some people take the stance that these songs are merely young girls asking their daddy to buy them a cute toy. To those people I say: you’re brainwashed. The “Daddy” complex is exactly one thing: a younger and perceivably innocent girl appealing and appeasing an older, more powerful male.
Onedari Daisakusen’s lyrics makes it clear that the girl is manipulating the father, not just asking him.
If you want to read into it below surface level then i think it’s pretty obviously a dig at the Japanese Idol world, pointing out that the relationship between fans and idols is usually nothing more than manipulation designed to part the fans from their money with flattery, pandering and so on.
>And don’t forget about the song “Headbangeeeeerrrrr!!!!!” which is about the night of a girl’s fifteenth birthday (her “special night”):
Yeah, it’s her special night, the lyrics are about her going to her first rock concert. And the lyrics you quoted are obviously about the fleeting nature of youth, do you really have a problem with that?
>But, back to the outfits: it’s a well-known and well-documented fact that the schoolgirl look in Japan is pretty fetishized.
Again, BABYMETAL does not wear schoolgirl uniforms nor do they sport what i would call a “schoolgirl look”(aside from the fact that they are young).
>Denying these realities based on a difference in culture and different takes on what sexuality is or isn’t does not make them any less real. It’s even common to find young girls being paid minimum wage to massage older men. Starting to see a connection here?
I can’t see how this connects to BABYMETAL though.
>Thus, the fact that these girls are visually representing this facade is what makes it so appallingly disgusting to me.
So BABYMETAL is “appallingly disgusting” because the girls AREN’T sexualized?
How does that make any sense? BABYMETAL has steered clear of doing any of the stuff that is common among Japanese idol groups like super skimpy outfits, sexy photoshoots, kissing on stage, developing a “girlfriend experience” for their fans and so on…
And you are criticizing them for that?
>Another item I would love to address is the notion that Babymetal “inspires women to find their place in metal.” Do they, though? Most of the women I know see this band as a gimmicky act, not as an empowering presence.
So this should be judged on the women you know? I know women who are life long rock/metal fans who like BABYMETAL and i have met women for whom BABYMETAL was their introduction to that world.
>Now. I am in NO WAY saying that Babymetal should not exist — if you think they are fun and whatever then go ahead and blast their tunes. If you are a dude and you dig them, it doesn’t mean you are a pedo. It’s just impossible to deny the connection between their aesthetic and the fetishized Lolita character.
If that connection is made that is not BABYMETALs fault. They have done nothing to intentionally pander to an audience that wants that sort of character.
What would BABYMETAL have to do to NOT be fetishized? Start wearing jeans and t-shirts? Stop dancing? Never smile, only pout and sing grimdark lyrics?
>Babymetal does not exist in a vacuum, and you cannot exempt them from it just because you think they are cutesy and don’t want to admit that there are other people who have frankly nefarious and nauseating thoughts about them no matter where they are from.
Again, how is that BABYMETALs fault? You can find peope that think “nefarious and nauseating” stuff about almost every single thing that exists, from children’s cartoons to fences.
My basic disagreement with your line of thinking is that you seem to blame BABYMETAL for people thinking of them in these ways.
I can’t believe that someone who has a gender and women’s studies background can’t see how fucked that way of thinking is.
You wan’t them to change how they dress and act to NOT be thought of in these ways?
>I just very sincerely wish that metal publications would promote some of the terrific, hard-working metal acts out there that are making fantastic music and not merely promoting a stage show or gimmick.
BABYMETAL work harder than most, don’t dismiss it just because that work is done in a dance studio and on stage.
I think BABYMETALs music is fantastic and unlike the bands that you mentioned at the start they don’t have that contrived darkness that i have become so bored of.
Ultimately you are, again, blaming BABYMETAL for what someone else has done.
This next quote is from early in the article:
>Babymetal is taking up what precious space most publications give to actual metal these days and thus stealing from bands like Zealotry, Howls of Ebb, Nucleus, Chthe’ilist, Bat, Oranssi Pazuzu and other tremendous releases from 2016.
This is just a ridiculous line of thinking. It makes me think that the article was not written with any real concern about the issues at hand, instead out of pettiness and jealousy that YOUR favorite bands are being overlooked and ignored.
I am a woman who appreciates all types of music but my true love is metal. I come from a musical background & have been raised in a home where classical guitar was played daily by my father who was also a teacher.
I take great offence about the comment on how ‘Babymetal inspires women to find their place in metal.’ What a load of crap that statement is!!! Woman have already found their place in metal & the women u talk of being inspired are not into metal at all & wouldnt have a clue. I cant even begin to describe how absurd this comment is!
Metal music is about rebellion, going against the system, it has meaning, it has depth & it pertains to a particular musical rule & formula.
Babymetal is fucking bullshit, tho the band are great, the idea is ridiculous. Have you ever seen babies or young children at heavy metal mosh pit concerts? No! These 3 young girls with their horrible high pitched squeaky voices irritate me immensely. Metal does not vocalise this way. Metal bands dont dance like pop princesses & they sure as hell dont wear pig tails in their hair!! They are kids & should be played for kids not at full adult heavy metal concerts! Anyone, in my opinion, who buys a ticket to a Babymetal show & is over 20 years old has either a fetish for the young girls, has not matured from primary school, is deaf & blind, has no idea about music or its meaning & purpose or is just a sheep follower with no mind of their own.
This contrived marketing concept shows no respect for metal bands or their hardcore fans & as far as im concerned they are making a mockery of the metal scene & should be stripped of their band name keeping the ‘baby’ part.
Metal music has rules & it does not include little girls prancing around on stage smiling. Its pathetic, its wrong & i reject them!! Booooo!!! Horns up..\m/
@ANA:
You should take heed of the old saying,
“It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, rather than open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.”
If you don’t like the music, then listen to something else. If you don’t like the costumes and choreography, then watch something else.
There are all kinds of “metal,” by the way. You are not the arbiter of what is or isn’t “metal.”
I’ve left my reply for a couple of days, as I wanted to mull it over and work it out in my head rather than jump the gun. I’m not going to call you names or any of that. I’m merely going to offer up my thoughts, which are this: This piece is, at best, poorly researched and at worst, clickbait. The basis on your entire article (part 1: taking press from “worthy” bands [which is incredibly subjective] and part 2: sexualisation) are completely at odds with you own tweet which you YOURSELF embedded: “Sorry to Complain: can everyone just fuck off with the BabyMetal already? Seriously. It’s garbage horseshit and it does nothing for metal”. It seems obvious to me, and most other people that have interacted with you here and on Twitter, can see through your frivolous, faux social conscience that’s merely hiding the following: You don’t like this band, and you don’t think anyone else should either. You don’t like the fact that Babymetal represent metal in 2016, and you’re embarrassed to be associated with a genre that they’re associated with. If they were a hip-hop act, you wouldn’t care. Not an iota. Your attempt to “prove” things by dropping lyrics from ONE song out of twenty six over two albums is pretty pathetic. Not only that, but you didn’t offer a single citation so chances are you either Google translated it yourself or copied and pasted from a blog or translation site. This is pure laziness on your part and merely proves that you were more concerned with firing this piece up as quick as possible, rather than put some actual effort into it. What about “Ijime Dame Zettai”, English translation “No More Bullying”. No, of course not. That doesn’t fit your narrative. Not to mention the fact that I’ve never seen a school uniform even closely resemble what Babymetal wear on stage. Maybe you’re thinking of Britney Spears, eh?
Metal is a relatively young genre in musical terms, and to say that Babymetal “does nothing for metal” is one of the most egregious overstatements I’ve come across in recent memory. Alice Cooper, Ozzy Osbourne, Eddie the Ed, Hair Metal, Metallica Selling Out, Nu Metal, Nine Dudes from Iowa Wearing Stupid Masks, Deafheaven. All of these things have been accused of “doing nothing from metal”, but it turns out they did. If anything, they acted as a gateway for some people to some of your so called “worthy” bands. Why not write about them instead.
And finally, the last contradiction in your article. It’s pretty rich for you to cry foul of what you perceive to be occurring with Babymetal when you post this garbage on your Twitter feed.
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Nine Circles is usually spot on in most instances, but this was a pretty poorly thought out angle to approach this topic. Considering you’re the editor of this site, one would expect more and would expect you to set a better example for the other writers in your employ.
Anonymous, who has thought deeply on this subject for days, probably whilst staring at a gently running stream, really, really likes Babymetal and thinks that bad man should set a better example by writing things that are agreeable to Anonymous. Bad, bad Manny! Anonymous hereby demands you forfeit your role as editor immediately. Because Babymetal or something. For shame!
You know they cry on stage, not just once.
So Moa did while Ijime Dame Zettai.
And of course there are more Songs like the 2 he mentioned.
Megitsune, Rondo of Nightmare, Uki Ukii, GJ …
Babymetal sucks. If we’re lucky their plane will crash into the parking lot of a Metallica concert and they will suffer the same fate at Du Jour.
They cry in stage… Little Girls crying
They speak of theirselfes as Su-/Yui-/Moametal, sure it’s the image but it freaks you out. Moa does it alot “Moametal likes.. Moametal thinks…” They seem to have even more personalitys, sometimes they Act & speak like they are 12 again, sometimes they seem to be still stuck in Sakura Gauklin.
Now there is an Interview avalible where Yui passes out after some trigger words…
Sure can be Jetlag, maybe.
Oh and Su and Moa have been modeling alot before Age of 10.
The Label is also more kind of fashion Lable.
And did you know that Moa took bath with her dad till Junior High, her Sister gave nice Interview bout this.
And to end this, it has been how many? 3-5 Birthdays each of them celebrate in Stage..
If u quests to me yep I have some sex fantasies with babymetal girls, is more than a grateful adoration, a triple blowjob in the backstage preview to concert for give them the pineapple-nut protein that needs for dancing, but more I want make the first cunnilingus for yui holding and spread her legs and 69, she loves tomatoes and this fruit give so much consistency for genital fluids, oh yeah. I want a blowjob and vaginal in side missionary and front cowboy with su, and ending with a fingering and anal in doggie or back bump with moa, but is only a fantasy, moa and yui are near 18 but is a platonic illegal dream. u quests about sexual hidden message in lyrics, u’re wrong… Ur imagination flies, not so much like mine, I hate their tutu skirts, can’t wait for an more rude and adult style for them
I don’t think that metal is placed on the moral ground which permit it to criticize others for their lyrics and behavoir… especially when you mention and praise death metal, whose lyrics are mostly about murder and Satanism. Like seriously now… We had bands like Kiss who had songs about their dick and where and sill are praised like some great band, and now Babymetal is sexualized?
Just recognize the truth, you guys are just salty that Babymetal gets more recognition than your cliche little bands… ”2016 hd been a great year for metal” – oh, please… metal didn’t had anything great in it since te early 2000’s… that why BM enjoy so much hype… because is something genuily fresh and unique…
Con solo leer que estudiaste “Género & Estudios de la Mujer”… todo está dicho, es evidente que el pedófilo, misándrico y hembrista reprimido eres tú. Puros clichés y estereotipos de género manejas en tu pseudo análisis jajajajaja.
Ive been a fan of all types of rock music for the past 50 years, but my boyfriend has been loving Babymetal for years now, so I finally thought I would check them out, and as a female Psychiatrist, I looked at the first video for maybe ten seconds before I wanted to vomit!! As a survivor of child sex abuse, I took ten seconds to immediately make the direct connection between their LOOK and kiddie-porn..Ive treated hundreds of pedophiles in my career, and Babymetal was MADE for middle- age pedophiles..Kiss along with MANY bands had songs about thieir dicks and sex, but NOT while acting like BABIES..acting like prepubesent little girls!! There is SO MUCH WRONG about their asthetic I cant even begin to list it all, but YES, YOU may not be thinking revolting, naseating thoughts about these little girls, but as a Psychiatrist of 52 years,I can ASSURE YOU,many if not most fans of this band ARE!! Its FINE if adult men or women get sexual in their asthetic, NOT THE SEXULAZATION OF LITTLE GIRLS!! Didnt need their lyrics, all it took was ten seconds LOOKING AT THEM, to know this is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!! For the FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I forbid my boyfriend from seeing or supporting this band in any way untill they grow up, sing and act like WOMEN,not little girls for midfdle-aged men at metal shows!! They are as subtle about their Lolita sexualisation of children, as KISS is subtle about ANYTHING!! BUT KISS ARE MEN!! HUGE DIFFERENCE PEOPLE..I love all syles of rock, from the Bubblegum I grew up with, to punk rock, to glitter rock, to New Wave, to grunge, to Heavy Metal..it makes NO DIFFERENCE WHAT THIS BAND IS SINGING, THEIR ASTHETIC IS SO DISGUTINGLY WRONG!! If they have true talent, drop thre Lolita act and show us what youve really got! Anyone out their old enough to remember what happened when KISS droped the act??? In a YEAR, everyone saw what real talent they DIDNT HAVE, and back came all the asthetics and antics..blood, fire, smoking guitars..this band is about as subtle as a sledgehammer to the face in kiddie- porn!! You cant separate KISS from their asthetics, and you cant separate Babymetal from THEIR Lolita fetishising either..as subtle as KISS..but KISS was always ADULT MEN… so if these girls will DROP THE LOLITA ANTICS AND SHOW US WHAT THEYVE GOT, then fine, my boyfriend can return to listening to them and attending their concerts. Untill then, supporting kiddie- porn and pedophilia is not someting ANY adult male should be OK with..its so WRONG ON SO MANY LEVELS..they are every middle- aged males wet dreams, you have no idea unless your a professional in the mental heath area. People should be calling out all fans of this revolting Lolita sexualization of little girls NOW!!If theyve got real talent, do what KISS did decades ago,DROP THE LOLITA ACT…perform like WOMEN, NOT BABIES!! Then we can all decide for ourselves. In the meantime, stop lieing to yourselves about the child sexualization thry are selling to adult men, its NOT OK IN ANY WAY!! As a professional in the Mental Health area I can assure you this is WRONG, WRONG,WRONG!!!! They are peddeling Japaneese kiddie- porn as suble as a SLEDGEHAMMER!! PERIOD!! MY 52 YEARS AS A PSYCHIATRIST TELLS ME I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT HERE, AND ITS BEYOND CREEPY, BEYOND DISTURBING..
and if you cant SEE that, dude,YOUVE got some SERIOUS ISSUES!!!
Again people, my disgust, revotion of Babymetal has nothing at all to do with their music, nothing!! You simply CANT tell me you ” love them for their music” but not the kiddie- porn look and lyrics!! They could be the next BEATLES, or singing OPERA for all I care!! Its got NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR MUSIC, AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIE LOLITA SEXUALIZATION OF LITTLE GIRLS! To the guy who said ” well, thats not Babymetals fault” and ” people will sexalise anything”, thats COMPLETELY NOT TRUE..as a Psychiatist of 50 years, i can ASSURE you as PROFESSIONAL IN THE MENTAL HEALTH FIELD, when grown me watch acts like this and get sexually arroused for the first time, watching LITTLE GIRLS FLIRT WITH THEM, wearing short short skits, fishnet stockings, and bending over presenting their asses and blowing kisses to middle- aged metal heads,it is most CERTAINLY INTENDED TO AROUSE EVERY MIDDLE-AGED MALE WATCHING THEM!! and if you cant immediately recognise this, YOUVE got a VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM!! Babymetal is HUGELY to blame for presenting themseves in this way¡! Would ANY of you fathers out there want to see YOUR LITYLE DAUGHTER presenting themseves to middle- aged metal Heads this way?? Really?? Youd be just FINE WITH THAT??? SINGING ” DADDY GIVE IT TO ME”???? If your answer is YES, I stronly doubt you have a young daughter. This band, if they really are talented musicians must IMMEDIATELY DROP THE KIDDIE- PORN LOLITA ACT, and perform like WOMEN..sexualuzation of both ADULT men and women is completey fine in music or art of ANY type, buts NEVER OK TO FETISHISE AND SEXUALISE LITTLE GIRLS OR LITTLE BOYS, NEVER EVER EVER OK!! And the band itself must own up to THEIR PART in all this!! When they drop the Lolita act, THEN YES, I have no problem eith them at all, in any way. But as long as they keep presenting as little girls in short short skirts, ponytails, blowing kisses to their audiance of primaraly middle- aged, balding, grey haied ADULT MEN, IF YOU DONT SEE AN IMMEDIATE PROBLEM WITH THAT , YOUR THE ONE WITH THE PROBLEM!! AND YOUR PERSONALLY SUPPORTING THE SEXUALAZATION AND MARKETING OF KIDDIE-PORN TO MIDDLE AGED MEN AT THEIR CONCERTS!! You all need to just read the book Lolita, if any of you actually READ BOOKS anymore..theyre as subtle as KISS, but KISS were all GROWN MEN, not little boys!! Open your eyes and ears people, and stop rationilising and excusing yoursef for loving a KISS act performed by little gils firting and blowing kisses at middle- aged metal- heads!!! Its WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!! DO WHAT KISS DID DECADES AGO, DROP THE LOLITA KIDDIE-PORN ACT, AND LETS SEE WHAT YOUVE REALLY GOT WITHOUT THE BLOOD, FIRE, SMOKING GUITARS OF KISS NOTIRIETY!! Acyt like WOMEN, not a Lolita kidde- porn act if your SO TALENTED. TAKE THE COSTUMES AND MAKUP OFF, KISS!!! The description saying this is Kiss meets a Middle- aged pedophile in the park was SPOT ON!!!Couldnt have descirbed it better myself..Kiss meets a Middle- aged pedophile…its revolting, disurbing, disgusting to see middle- aged men loving sexualised little girls!! They probably still live in their mothers basements and havent ever gotten layed yet..with their D&D games and comic book collestions!! I ADORE ALL GENRES OF ROCK FROM BUBBLEGUM TO PUNK TO NEW WAVE TO GRUNGE TO HEAVY METAL…have for 55 years..but as a Psychiatrist of 50 years Im stunned, shocked and appauled seeing grown men defend this band!! Japan has been fetishising very young girls for decades, but we should NEVER BE OK WITH IT IN AMERICA!! Let them perform as WOMEN, thats totally acceptable, but their Lolia sexy little girl thing should be IMMEDIATELY called- out and denouned in the very strongest terms!!! Its JAPANEESE KIDDIE-PORN CARTOONS, PEOPLE!! THIS ISNT ROCKET SCIENCE!! IF YOU WOULDNT LET YOUR YOUNG DAUGHTER DO IT, YOU SHOULSNT BE WATCHING OR LISTENING TO IT. PERIOD. GROW UP AND WATCH WOMEN NOT SEXUALISED LITTLE GIRLS!!! And if you think me, as,a Psychatist of 50 years cant IMMEDIATELY recognise kiddie- porn the MINUTE I SEE IT, well you have ZERO training or experiace treating pedophiles, whereas I have treated HUNDREDS OF PEDOPHILE CLIENTS in my life, and I COMPLETLY know what Im talking about. So ALL of you, stop lueing to yoursef! Their Lolita sexy chidact is about as subtke as KISS in EVERY RESPECT, A SLEDEHAMMER TO YOUR FACE IN KIDDIE’- PORN..Ive spacalused for 50 years in tresting pedophilia, YOU HAVE NOT! SO NONE OF YOU HAS THE FAINTESTVIDEA WHAT YOUR R TALING ABOUT IN THIS AREA, DO YOU?? DIDNT THINK SO. Go find a sound- alike of this band online, sung by WOMEN..THERE ARE DOSENS OF THEM!!! And if ” theyre not as good”, KEEP LOOKING!! CALLING EVERY ONE IF YOU OUT!! SHAME ON EVERY ONE OF YOU GROWN MEN LOOKING AT LITTLE GIRLS BENDING OVER, SHOWING YOU THEIR ASSES, BLOWING YOU KISSES!! YOUDCLET YOUR YOUNG DAUGHTER DO THAT?? OF COURSE NOT..SO GROW UP!! F GO LISTEN TO GROEN WOMEN, NOT PREPUBESENT LITTLE GIRLS..EEEEWWWWWWWWWW!!! MIDDLE- AGED CUM ALL OVER AMERICA…..I need to shower now this is all so disturbimg, disguting, revolting…